But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect. 1 Peter 3:15
In Minucius Felix, Caecilius makes arguments against Christianity and Octavius replies. I clipped excerpts linked to war and providence because of the times in which we find ourselves. It’s admittedly long, but rich and full of insights for our generosity and sharing today. Please read it and see.
“Chapter V.–Argument: Caecilius begins his argument first of all by reminding them that in human affairs all things are doubtful and uncertain, and that therefore it is to be lamented that Christians, who for the most part are untrained and illiterate persons, should dare to determine on anything with certainty concerning the chief of things and the divine majesty: hence he argues that the world is governed by no providence.
“Why should I speak of tempests, various and uncertain, wherein the attack upon all things is tossed about without any order or discrimination?–in shipwrecks, that the fates of good and bad men are jumbled together, their deserts confounded?–in conflagrations, that the destruction of innocent and guilty is united?–and when with the plague-taint of the sky a region is stained, that all perish without distinction?–and when the heat of war is raging, that it is the better men who generally fall? In peace also, not only is wickedness put on the same level with (the lot of) those who are better, but it is also regarded in such esteem, that, in the case of many people, you know not whether their depravity is most to be detested, or their felicity to be desired. But if the world were governed by divine providence and by the authority of any deity…”
Caecilius continues at length. Later, in reply Octavius writes:
“Chapter XVIII.–Argument: Moreover, God not only takes care of the universal world, but of its individual parts. That by the decree of the one God all things are governed, is proved by the illustration of earthly empires.
“It would be a long matter to go through particular instances. There is no member in man which is not calculated both for the sake of necessity and of ornament; and what is more wonderful still, all have the same form, but each has certain lineaments modified, and thus we are each found to be unlike to one another, while we all appear to be like in general. What is the reason of our being born? What means the desire of begetting? Is it not given by God, and that the breasts should become full of milk as the offspring grows to maturity, and that the tender progeny should grow up by the nourishment afforded by the abundance of the milky moisture? Neither does God have care alone for the universe as a whole, but also for its parts.
Britain is deficient in sunshine, but it is refreshed by the warmth of the sea that flows around it. The river Nile tempers the dryness of Egypt; the Euphrates cultivates Mesopotamia; the river Indus makes up for the want of rains, and is said both to sow and to water the East. Now if, on entering any house, you should behold everything refined, well arranged, and adorned, assuredly you would believe that a master presided over it, and that he himself was much better than all those excellent things.
So in this house of the world, when you look upon the heaven and the earth, its providence, its ordering, its law, believe that there is a Lord and Parent of the universe far more glorious than the stars themselves, and the parts of the whole world. Unless, perchance–since there is no doubt as to the existence of providence–you think that it is a subject of inquiry, whether the celestial kingdom is governed by the power of one or by the rule of many; and this matter itself does not involve much trouble in opening out, to one who considers earthly empires, for which the examples certainly are taken from heaven. When at any time was there an alliance in royal authority which either began with good faith or ceased without bloodshed?”
At this point, the two are at odds with each other…
Chapter XXV.–Argument: Then Octavius shows that Caecilius had been wrong in asserting that the Romans had gained their power over the whole world by means of the due observance of superstitions of this kind. Rather the Romans in their origin were collected by crime, and grew by the terrors of their ferocity. And therefore the Romans were not so great because they were religious, but because they were sacrilegious with impunity.
“Nevertheless, you will say that that very superstition itself gave, increased, and established their empire for the Romans, since they prevailed not so much by their valour as by their religion and piety. Doubtless the illustrious and noble justice of the Romans had its beginning from the very cradle of the growing empire. Did they not in their origin, when gathered together and fortified by crime, grow by the terror of their own fierceness?”
In the end, the grace and truth about Jeuss Christ presented by Octavius wins the day.
Chapter XL.–Argument: Then Caecilius exclaims that he is vanquished by Octavius; and that, being now conqueror over error, he professes the Christian religion. He postpones, however, till the morrow his training in the fuller belief of its mysteries.
While, therefore, I was silently turning over these things in my own ‘mind, Caecilius broke forth: “I congratulate as well my Octavius as myself, as much as possible on that tranquillity in which we live, and I do not wait for the decision. Even thus we have conquered: not unjustly do I assume to myself the victory. For even as he is my conqueror, so I am triumphant over error. Therefore, in what belongs to the substance of the question, I both confess concerning providence, and I yield to God; and I agree concerning the sincerity of the way of life which is now mine. Yet even still some things remain in my mind, not as resisting the truth, but as necessary to a perfect training of which on the morrow, as the sun is already sloping to his setting, we shall inquire at length in a more fitting and ready manner.”
Chap. XLI.–Argument: Finally, all are pleased, and joyfully depart: Caecilius, that he had believed; Octavius, that he had conquered; and Minucius, that the former had believed, and the latter had conquered.
“But for myself,” said I, “I rejoice more fully on behalf of all of us; because also Octavius has conquered for me, in that the very great invidiousness of judging is taken away from me. Nor can I acknowledge by my praises the merit of his words: the testimony both of man, and of one man only, is weak. He has an illustrious reward from God, inspired by whom he has pleaded, and aided by whom he has gained the victory. After these things we departed, glad and cheerful: Caecilius, to rejoice that he had believed; Octavius, that he had succeeded; and I [Minucius Felix], that the one had believed, and the other had conquered.”
Caecilius and Octavius (c. 160-250) in The Octavius of Minucius Felix excerpts from chapter V, XVIII, XXV, XL, and XLI, translated by Roberts-Donaldson. Click to read the entire interchange.
So why cite this long ancient post today, and what does it have to do with generosity?
I recounted this interaction because it reflects the questions people are asking today. Why the war between Russia and Ukraine. Why is all this bloodshed and destruction happening? Then many conclude, if there is a God He would never allow it, so there must be no God.
It’s true that good people are dying today. It’s also true that God’s care for the world, His divine providence, is glorious and matchless. Even as God waters the earth, so He cares for each person. That’s why, in the heart of their conversation, Octavius points to Christ as the gift of God to humanity.
He discloses that the so-called greatness of Rome links to taking and plundering by humankind. That’s what’s happening today! But the greatness and generosity of God is always giving and caring. So, now do you see why I wrote this post. We must answer the questions war with providence.
Because Jesus Christ is Lord, we need not take and plunder, but rather, be people of kindness, peace, and generosity. Sure, these are horrible times! Lord have mercy on all who suffer! But, we have one thing the world needs right now and that is hope. Share it richly. It won Caecilius and can win others today.
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